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This blog is meant to become a textual archive of my dynamic and often contradictory intellectual development over the past and coming years. I hope it will accomplish two functions, as a kind of cognitive genealogy, and as a textual extension of my thoughts exposing them to outside criticisms. Please keep in mind that some of these posts are only trains of thought and not necessarily my actual opinions. I am a thirdish year undergraduate student majoring in both philosophy and sociology.

14.1.07

Geertz on ideology

Geertz outlines two inadequate theories of ideology common in his day: interest theory, and strain theory. The first understands ideology as a mechanism of the powers that be in any given society: it indoctrinates the masses, and sustains the hegemony the dominant group. The latter understands ideology as a coping mechanism. This theory has a much greater descriptive power then the former as it can account for considerably more variance, and explain how factors actually submit individuals to such false consciousnesses. Ideology is seen as the result of weakness, or disease, or unfortunate circumstance; it must be diagnosed and remedied. But for Geertz neither gives an adequate account of how these ideologies are different from one another; how they manifest themselves; why the manifest themselves; and the kinds of outcomes they may bring about. He believes they lack the kind of interpretive power a “thick” ethnographic theory could offer.

What struck me was all the negativity towards ideology. I suppose this was symptomatic of a time and place – a world recovering from the first half of the twentieth century. For Geertz, such negativity towards a widespread social phenomena hinders a good social science. By dismissing such systems rich with meaning, as irrational or irrelevant to the supposed “reality,” we sell ourselves short. To not try and take account of ideology on its own terms is a fatal mistake. Geertz goes on to illustrate some situations in which ideology has been a very real mobilizing force. He states rather strongly:
The function of ideology is to make an autonomous politics possible by providing the authoritative concepts that render it possible […] It is when neither a society’s most general cultural orientations nor its most down-to-earth, “pragmatic” ones suffice any longer to provide an adequate image of political process that ideologies begin to become crucial as sources of sociopolitical meanings and attitudes. (218)

I agree with Geertz whole heartedly. Though his conclusions resonate doubly for myself. Not only is an adequate account of ideology necessary for a “thick” social science, but it is also necessary to any deliberately normative program for change. In a upcoming post I will discuss this latter function more thoroughly.

Cited:
Geertz, Clifford. _The interpretation of culture: selected essays_. New York: Basic Books, 1973.

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8 Comments:

At 5.2.07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

in the mood for a sound mind fucking? always.

-nat

 
At 7.2.07, Blogger Nicholas said...

hey man!

 
At 9.2.07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i told nat id follow suit if i saw he'd commented so - here we are

I was reading up on ideology the other day and read something about Michel Foucault’s concept of apparent ideological neutrality. – is there where you’re getting at? I couldn’t find much else pertaining to the concept but perhaps you could elaborate .... or write another post - your blog has been lacking - maybe you could comment on something we've been talking about at the readin circle - a little anarcho-Primitivism? (i'm just making some small suggestions)...:)

 
At 9.2.07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm not distracting - you shoud be happy a blogger like you has a girlfriend

 
At 5.3.07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I literally just finished writing a paper concerning ideologies (more literally, the relevance of certain ones in accordance to the Canadian Constitution from its conception in 1867 t'ill 1982). Now I may have missed something but I believe I read your post that ideologies must be looked at as separate from all else.

Forgive me if I'm wrong . . .

That is simply not a good idea. As I concluded in my essay, no ideology will dominate a nation for more than a century ( I don't know what time frame you were speaking of ) - some ideologies will last a country possibly only a month or so. Ideologies, whether we like it or not will always need to be fused and integrated into one another and hold each other up high for one ideology will not be that of the masses.

Ideologies are forever changing and being 'clarified' and 'interpreted' let alone being left without other ideologies knocking on their door . . . The only nations I can fathom bothering to look at an ideology wholly without interruption are those nations whose leader holds the title "President for Life".

Once again I apologize if this is found off topic.

 
At 5.3.07, Blogger Nicholas said...

yeah, i think you misunderstood me.

when i said, "To not try and take account of ideology on its own terms is a fatal mistake." I meant that we have to treat ideology as a social/ or structural fact of human realtions. in other words, something worthy of sociological or anthropological study. such a study should take into account its many different forms, but also its conditions of possibility -- broadly, how and why ideology in general occurs within a given community; and more specifically, it's form and type, and why such particularities are particular to our given community. we have to treat ideology as a social phenomena, and hence understand it in the context of a series of significant relations. but geertz is making another methodological call on top of all this -- he is also saying that we ought to, instead of just condememning them outright, try and get in the mind of the ideologue and understand their ideology on their terms. this will help us in our understanding of the aformentioned ideological facets.

does this follow through more?

 
At 9.3.07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

. . . yes

 
At 16.3.07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

write something!

- Nat

 

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